What happened while I was gone? I’ve been gone for the past couple of weeks on a cruise ship in the Mediterranean. We saw the sites, relaxed and had a great time.
Because we were in the middle of the Mediterranean on our ship (see below), we got little or no news of what was going on back in the United States. The only connection we really had to home was CNN International on the in-stateroom TVs. One night while flipping through the channels I saw on CNN that there was an economic meltdown happening back in the states that was affecting markets across the globe.
Wow, I leave for a couple of weeks and the markets go south!
Why Did The Markets Crash?
From what I understand all of this is still related to the whole sub-prime mortgage mess that we’ve been talking about all year. Too many people got involved in capitalizing on the hot sub prime lending market, and when the real estate bubble burst, all of these current problems started happening. Companies that gave out the loans are having problems. Companies insuring those companies giving out loans are having problems. The snowball of bankruptcies, rescues and bailouts had begun.
One article I read on Bloomberg.com described the crisis this way:
The economic history books will describe this episode in simple and understandable terms: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac exploded, and many bystanders were injured in the blast, some fatally.
Fannie and Freddie did this by becoming a key enabler of the mortgage crisis. They fueled Wall Street’s efforts to securitize subprime loans by becoming the primary customer of all AAA-rated subprime-mortgage pools. In addition, they held an enormous portfolio of mortgages themselves.
In the times that Fannie and Freddie couldn’t make the market, they became the market. Over the years, it added up to an enormous obligation. As of last June, Fannie alone owned or guaranteed more than $388 billion in high-risk mortgage investments. Their large presence created an environment within which even mortgage-backed securities assembled by others could find a ready home.
The problem was that the trillions of dollars in play were only low-risk investments if real estate prices continued to rise. Once they began to fall, the entire house of cards came down with them.
Another article talks about the current failure in depth, and describes the episode like this:
Fannie and Freddie were weakly supervised and strayed from the core mission. They began using their subsidized financing to buy mortgage-backed securities which were backed by pools of mortgages that did not meet their usual standards. Over the last year, it became clear that their thin capital was not enough to cover the losses on these subprime mortgages. The massive amount of diffusely held debt would have caused collapses everywhere if it was defaulted upon; so the Treasury announced that it would explicitly guarantee the debt.
But once the debt was guaranteed to be secure (and the government would wipe out shareholders if it carried through with the guarantee), no self-interested investor was willing to supply more equity to help buffer the losses. Hence, the Treasury ended up taking them over.
The other assortment of bank and insurance company problems that have been happening are happening mostly as a direct result of their involvement in the sub-prime lending mess – either directly or indirectly.
Government Bailouts On The Way?
Now the government is looking to do a bailout of the banks that hold highly depreciated assets because of the sub-prime mess. The bailout could be in excess of $700 billion dollars.
The question is, first of all, is a bailout of these companies even a good idea? Should we reward Wall Street when they make bad decisions like they have in this case? Or is the risk to the economy of these banks failing so great that something MUST be done?
Also, How much should the government pay for these depreciated assets that they’d be buying?
What’s your opinion on the current crisis, and a possible bailout? Is it necessary, or should we let companies that make bad business decisions fail?
Welcome back! Tell us all about your trip! And include pictures! I’ve gotta live vicariously through your trip…dunno when my next cruise will be :)
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Kacie, the only problem with the trip was that it was so awesome that we now have over 3000 photos to sift through. I’m planning on posting a quick summary and photos sometime this week.
Quick hint – if anyone wants to go somewhere beautiful – our favorites were on the Amalfi Coast in Italy – Ruvello, Positano, Sorrento, etc. Amazing coastal mountain towns with amazing views.. We can’t wait to go back!
Welcome back! It’s obvious that having your money spent overseas was the straw that broke the camel’s back for our economy!! Perhaps now that you will be spending your money domestically we won’t be needing the gazillion dollar bailout?
I’m under the thought that sometimes a business should just fail. Unless it’s found that the business would affect the world economy (perhaps like AIG) then you let the company go. I don’t get bailed out when I make a bad money decision why should professionals? Look at Lehman – They managed to get bought. Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs are re-inventing themselves without a bailout. We’re artificially pumping up failed business models when we bail these companies out.
Hope you had a great trip!
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I agree that sometimes we just need to let businesses fail. I think something probably needs to be done this time – but not sure if the entire $700 billion needs to happen as they’re saying. I’m also wary of the government taking over more things without an end date on it. That’s one thing we don’t need is more government control and big government beauracracies.
Pete, Dave Ramsey has a great post on his site about the situation and a viable solution that won’t cost us 700 billion.
Recommend the read and action.
Scott @ The Passive Dad says
Looks like you really had two vacations. One for fun and the other to escape from this financial mess that we can’t seem to escape. It would be nice to get away and stop hearing the same bailout message from all tv media and news organizations. Even Cramer on CNBC is touting the bailout as the only option. I don’t think handing out $700 billion to companies that give executives guaranteed bonuses is going to be the only solution.
See?!!??!?! Now we know why the market fell, you left! No more vacations for you Mister! ;)
Bailout of the banks should of never happened. Let the banks fall. If thegovt wanted to stimulate the economy money filtered thru taxpayers would of possibly been the right way to go. At least the taxpayers would paid off debt or spent the money in more of a responsible manner than the banks. We all know what it is like to have to budget and do without. The govt or banks have no clue. Never will.